It creates an emotional response that isnt real and isnt based upon truth. It certainly wasnt based upon the Bible. One can't be a fundamentalist and obey the Bible, and obeying the Bible is more important than being a non-scriptural title or even idea. A cursory look about his YouTube page will show just that much. Error on the Enigmatic and Ambiguous Call to Preach. So called fundamentalists today are practically the same as evangelicals which are practically the same as modernists. All one has to do is rightly divide the word of truth and compare Scripture with Scripture. So just the opposite is true. . Negativity is a trait of the Holy Spirit. In this video he also gives way to much credibility to those in evangelicalism, claiming some of them to be saved just compromised or ignorant to the truth. She is a dangerous author and false teacher, and no one that understands and loves Gods Word should give her any attention. Spencers chart says fundamentalists are saved and obedient to Scripture. He claims all of fundamentalism is saved, believes right, is following the Scriptures and will be raptured out but that is certainly not true. Sexton continued to embrace and praise these ungodly heretics like Hyles after everything had come to light (calling him a man of God who fell) and then Schaap in 2011 after his blasphemous teaching on communion was brought to the public spotlight (see here, . Scripture doesn't support unity on just fundamentals. He is a great story teller but a terrible expositor of Gods Word and a man on an agenda. He gives examples after examples of people that suffered horrible things and deaths because of allegedly questioning the man of God. In one example he says 19 out of 21 men died in one year, who were part of the Sunday school class where the teacher critiqued the pastors sermons. Fundamentalists are champions of pragmatism, and do not reject pragmatism or unorthodox forms of methodology and they certainly do use carnal means to accomplish spiritual goals. They will do that. In the video The Falling Away - Missionary Spencer Smith (. ) God spews them out of His mouth. Its man-centred and it reflects what Im saying here, about an anemic, even corrupted gospel. 1:11; 2 Tim. So is that showing love to God when he is not being a witness of these things? The labels he gives Christians, such as carnal, lukewarm, backsliders, illustrates his non-discernment in who is truly saved and who is not. If you have a wife and kids, and you abandon them for another woman, then you are the scum of the earth. When he started to live the Christian life, he realized that there were many parallels between football and serving the Lord. Etc. Not really even close and the credence he is giving people really isnt reality either. That entire video promotes false revivalism and the false theology of Keswick/higher life. Spencer and his wife graduated from Sextons Crown College and were members of Temple Baptist Church for 5 yrs (which is pastored by Sexton). And that never does work either. (time 04:05). 20:21, which is the gospel: Ac. Is God helping us so we can have what we want or are we servants of Him? He is not in the church, like Matt. He says if you do any of these things to the pastor, God will take care of you like He did Korah. Spencer seriously undermines sound doctrine: You know there is some doctrinal issues in this Bible but I dont think its a deal breaker. Thats a bunch of hog wash, as Ive demonstrated here. 5. This becoming of one in unity between modernists and evangelicals has been taking place now for at least 70 years. 4. for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (Gal 1:10). It has some biblical aspects to it, but as a whole it does not conform to a biblical paradigm or template. Ill leave it at that. In this passage Pauls struggle is said to be the record of past conflicts and defeats experienced as a renewed man under law.) His teaching led to the idea that at the point of salvation someone received Jesus, and at some later point, Jesus became Lord (which happened when he was "dedicated or received the second blessing). That she would learn from these people speaks to her true spiritual nature (1 Cor 2:14-16). Through its parachurch organizations (mission boards, colleges, fellowships, and camps), it ignores doctrines, including the gospel, to cobble together a coalition. (f) In spite of the ravening wolf Jack Hyles horrible perversion of the gospel and endless false teachings, Rice was close friends with him and even hosted soul winning conferences together with him. 2:11-13 Matt. But its very fundamentalist. The Holy Spirit inspired scripture, which is much more negative than positive. Earns Commissions. Nothing about it. They have not obeyed the gospel (vv. Find them on Facebook here. He is only doing damage to cause of Christ. I am a Christian, family man, preacher, missionary, and film maker. It gives so many descriptors of their lost condition in Rev. Although Spencer does put out some good warnings on error and false teachers, etc, my conscience in light of Gods Word says I must warn of him for a number of important reasons. 2:1-3, 17-22). The unction and anointing of the Holy Spirit are not higher planes of spiritual existence. ). 1:9-10; Ti. So that is very far from the truth. Pointing to the pastor of the church he is preaching in, he belches, if that man preaches a Bible we are going to stay with the man of God and keep our mouths off of him [this part is screamed]. I am a Christian, family man, preacher, missionary, and film maker. Paul would have said of these that they are liars, evil beasts, slow bellies (Ti. Spencer has a few promotional videos on Hutson preaching. Charles Ryrie (book recommended in his amazon store account). 10:32-39; 16:24-26; Mk. So any man who is truly born again and has a desire for the office and meets all the qualifications, all of which is confirmed by the elders of the church, can be a pastor (or deacon). 1:6-9. After all, fundamentalists think its a sin to have a small church. As noted with the example of Ravi Zacharias, a heretic and wolf in sheeps clothing, whom he refused to denounce in the video The Falling Away. Snce that time even more evifence has comdHe doesnt speak against the carnal circus he calls church that he preached in during deputation, where the house was overflowing with people and whoever brought the most visitors won an actual car (6 Great Lessons From The Welsh Revival, time 03:00). The ecumenicalism and false unity happening and leading to the one world church is right on the money. These videos demonstrate some of the crazy, sadistic and deluded IB men like Tony Hutson and their so-called church: . Its also of course intentional false interpretation of Scripture, which is wresting the Word of God, which is an error of the wicked (2 Pet. They are a major backbone of the Keswick theology, and the Pentecostalism that arose out of it, which provides all the more evidence that they are corruptions of Biblical Christianity. Just because he prayed a prayer, sang some hymns and attended a heretical Baptist church, doesnt mean he was saved. To follow the Bible within fundamentalism is like trying to store the new wine in old wineskins. (books are recommended in his amazon store account). On purpose, Sword of the Lord (organization that Rice started) would leave out biblical repentance as a necessary prerequisite for justification or salvation. You know why he asks, about not making it harder. Has anyone seen this guy on YouTube? Actually undermining what scripture says about men like Zacharias, which is that he is a clear heretic (Ti. Woe be unto the shepherds that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! Since when does God vomit His children out of His mouth? . His go-to sermon is excessively heretical, Blowing the Whistle on Wolves which ironically contains exaltation of wolves such as Curtis Hutson and Clarence Sexton, etc, and lots and lots about the bigness of big churches and big men, including himself (even though he is a little man in stature), how many hundreds were saved here and there and how he was running thousands in his church and so was so and so, etc. He was a heretic for a lot of reasons, and theres lots of proof to support all this and more. Its lacking doctrinal content Spencer says, yet he exalts it and gives hundreds of them away to flood Africa with heresy. My biggest issue here is putting true born again Bible believing Christians (Baptists and some others) into fundamentalism, which was a very compromised man-centred movement from its inception. Its wicked and spawned in the pit of hell. This has been addressed several times, and he refuses to answer any questions about it. 3:11; Jam. In spite of the gross heresies, sins and wickedness of Jack Hyles, all of which was public knowledge, Hutson continued to defend Hyles and promote his influence. 3 ITEMS Spencer Smith Books. 24:44-48)? He embraces Southern Gospel, which is just another form of CCM, and then also CCM itself, with the fleshly self-promoting squeaky syncopated nauseating singing, as seen in this music video he has on his channel (https://youtu.be/XbpRwUH07PY). Towards the end of the video he speaks of v. 20, about Jesus knocking on the door of the church and desiring to come in, and the people Jesus is knocking at dont know His voice. Its very concerning, because to get this wrong is to possibly have a wrong view of salvation and what salvation does and who the Bible describes as lost. It doesnt separate from heretics such as Jack Hyles, Jack Schaap, Larry Brown, Paul Chappell, Clarence Sexton, Rick Flanders, John R Rice, Curtis Hutson, Mike Sullivant, Bob Gray Sr., Sword of the Lord men, etc. Our next video will be discussing Missionary Spencer Smith and his lack of content in regards to porn. 1:24-31; 2 Th. (Genesis 2:24; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:20-32; I Corinthians . It is not surprising then that one hears Spencer say, weve seen thousands of people saved in their ministry in Kenya. Apr 26. It was the foundation of salvation preaching. That manifested the Holy Spirit in Him. Spencer claims: God touched Evan Roberts heart and God raised him up and it went throughout, and it started from there. No, God certainly did not. he completely corrupted and wrested Rom. Yes indeed he was, Roberts himself admitted that he was demon possessed. This is what Spencer claims in his video on The Laodicean Church Third Adam 2 Trainer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhnTZOWCu6s). 3 speaks volumes as to what they believe and teach on sanctification and, to a lesser degree, salvation. Join Dudley Anderson as he talks to pastors Abe and Lilian De Fin. This is the gospel were speaking of. John Spencer Smith (1769-1845), British diplomat, politician and writer. 9:28). Spencer even mentions some of Roberts heresies when he preached, but strangely doesnt clue in that they are heretical: That is not a good thing! Can you say, Just. 2:3-5; Jn. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. (Rom. He says the same about missions work. As mentioned, EVERYONE is called to preach. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. Nowhere is unbelief found in such passages such as 1 Cor 6:9-10 and Gal 5:19-21 and Rev. The Bible belt of America is full of people like this. There you go with that, its a great Bible. So he recommends it. Roberts plainly stated that he had endured demon possession, and claimed that being possessed was key to the content of his writings on demonology. 14:15-24; 1 Jn. 4. Fundamentalists separated from others, those deemed liberals, for not believing and teaching what they called the fundamentals. This is all heresy and all a repentance issue (worth noting: this false sanctification and salvation is found everywhere in churches today, thanks in part to this reference Bible). . Calvary Road Baptist Church supports missionaries at home and around the world in an effort to reach the world with the Gospel. Evan Roberts. Is. It is impossible to stay in fundamentalism and still be faithful to the Bible. pastor). Its not for a lack of believing that prevents people from being converted (oh no, the world is full of believers); but sinners refusal to repent because of their wilful rebellion against God and His Authority (Jn 3:19-21; Lk. Well that is exactly what Evan Roberts did, even worse, but Spencer is either willfully or intentionally ignorant to it. Evan Roberts not only put a stop to the real Welsh Revival, but was an enemy to it and destroyed it, and along with that, destroyed Welsh Baptist churches and Welsh Christianity as a whole. What about worshipping God in Spirit and in truth, what Jesus preached to a lost woman (Jn. Skip to content Skip to content. 1:8; 2:10-12; 3:2; 2 Pet. 1:10), and thus be offended in nothing. There is a few CCM songs they sing on his account, including How Deep the Fathers Love for Us, written by the heretic Stuart Townend (charismatic in theology and practice, supporting such heresies as spirit slaying, holy laughter, and gibberish tongues, and participating in the radically ecumenical heretical Alpha program with strong ties to Catholicism). In a few videos he declares that God called him to preach. Then there is a video on that very subject, How Do I Know If I'm Called To Preach? Where does the Bible say that God calls us to preach? Where? social gospel), he doesnt speak the truth about the true gospel, nor about some of the false gospels. Doesnt understand Kent Hovinds apostate state, or wont be clean about it, which is heresy either way. No results, no good. None of these are some minor little problems. No wonder he could say this without supporting it with scripture. To understand the Bible King James Godhead . Fundamentalism is a movement that responded to theological liberalism in the early twentieth century. He corrupts and distorts practically every single passage of Scripture he mentions (granted, its not many since guys like this do not expository preach out of the Bible but tell stories). (book recommended in his amazon store account). This is all heresy and all a repentance issue (worth noting: this false sanctification and salvation is found everywhere in churches today, thanks in part to this reference Bible). This is actually demonic and meant to monger fear and stop people from obeying Gods Word in testing, judging, correcting and reproving the man of God (i.e. 16:17-18; Eph. . God is NOT 3 PERSONS as Spencer believes. Missionary Spencer Smith was lead to Christ after a flag football game. Fundamentalism will always suffer, but ultimately the Bible itself will become the casualty. Rice was a new evangelical at heart and church growth guru, hence why all his children became lost new evangelical gurus themselves. Great peace have they which love [Gods] law: and nothing shall offend them. (Ps. Unbelievable. He does not denounce error as commanded in Scripture which is excessively dangerous. On a side note, many of his videos have feel-good elevator music playing in the background, which is both concerning and dangerous. Its also of course intentional false interpretation of Scripture, which is wresting the Word of God, which is an error of the wicked (2 Pet. Rigggght. These things reveal that Spencer is a very compromised man and cannot actually speak the truth. 5:21-22; Tit. He is well known for singing songs such flowers, Someone You Loved and Fingers Crossed. He says they are blind, naked, wretched, poor, miserable, but strangely cannot discern that they are unsaved. This is also a good case in point on fundamentalism. Lukewarm is not referring to a saved person, but someone who is most likely never to be saved. 1:8; 2:10-12; 3:2; 2 Pet. 4 ITEMS Ministry Needs. Yes sir, IB fundamentalist pragmatism at its finest. 11:4). Southern Gospel and CCM. In his 1986 booklet, "Repentance: What Does the Bible Teach?" Spencer's father had four wives, the first of which is his mother. He speaks about Pauls warning of another gospel, but his elimination of the critical element of repentance and Christs Lordship, which is Who Jesus is, is also another gospel (2 Cor 11:4). The truth is, he actually didnt believe in Biblical repentance at all, for he believed faith and repentance were the same thing, and it didnt require sorrow: One who believes in Christ has repented. You better watch what you say about Gods man!! ). Spencer claims: God touched Evan Roberts heart and God raised him up and it went throughout, and it started from there. No, God certainly did not. 10:21), and he would not. 3:2-7; Tit. Scroggie also embraced the possibility of contemporary speaking in tongues and embraced the heresy of the universal church instead of practicing separation, which he despised. It unifies light with darkness. Thank you for your interest in what we are doing! Its a sellout to impress the need he has for money (which was spoken of prior, in the context). Lets consider a few: (a) Rice laid the foundation for the advent of the IB mega-churches of the '70s, while mocking bland, self-assured 'Bible teachers' preaching to little groups of saints, and lumping doctrinally sound sermons with entertaining sermons that were devoid of the anointing power of the Holy Spirit. Rice considered small churches to be sinful. Really. This is completely and entirely unscriptural and he should know that. Spencer Smith is a nineteen year old missionary from the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church or Mormon Church). He says The Laodicean church was very very weak. And truly saved people WILL want to do that. 2. 6:3-5; 2 Jn. Team Garcia joined New Bethlehem Missionary Baptist Church to celebrate Pastor David L. Smith's and his wife, First Lady Linda Smith's 31st pastoral anniversary. Clarence Sexton, Temple Baptist Church and Crown College. Although Im sure influenced by the Lord, that desire, as you read in these passages, comes from the man himself. This may well explain why he doesnt separate from Casting Crowns because of their music, but only because of their associations (Bethel/Hillsong). Or any other preacher in the Bible? Some of his book-length list of heresies and damnable heresies include seeking after and promoting a second baptism of the Holy Spirit and the second blessing of sanctification; communing with the dead; claiming there is no need for the Bible just follow the spirit leading (which on its own tells us what spirit was leading Roberts); seeking after and claiming experiences with the audible voice of God; preaching a seriously perverted gospel; rejecting God's Word; higher life mysticism in communing with evil spirits and Throne life prayer; believed and taught he had authority to bind Satan and co-work with God in the last defeat of Satan and all his hosts, and indeed affirmed he had bound Satan and had entered into the sufferings of the Saviour/High Priest and thus obtained a position from which he could intercede continually for Christs servants and witnesses who were exposed to deception (can you say blasphemy!! That they are lost. 4:1) and that he was clearly of another spirit (2 Col 11:4). Chapter and verse? I'm not saying that you should go out of your way to be negative because now you see the Holy Spirit to be negative. 3:1). Doctrinal Statement of Missionary Spencer Smith and IBOM . Its about as terrible as it gets, to the point of nauseating. That unscriptural heresy is derived from Keswick/higher life/revivalism theology, false sanctification, which Ryries teachings were flooded with. Brown would not take a stand against Schaaps false doctrine and practice though he knew of it. 15:33; Eph. You will live happily and your children will live happy, I can tell you story after story after story, I can go on Ive got a dozen stories, I cant tell you all things I have come across That is ungodly and fear-mongering. Had Keswick theology never existed, Pentecostalism mightve never existed either. 16:17; Ti. Thankfully truly regenerated born again believers trust in God and not in man (Jer. He never wanted to attack, he wanted to be positive and promote the love of Jesus. What he is saying about these men is untrue, false and deflective. 4. No he wasnt! Doctrinal Statement of Missionary Spencer Smith and IBOM . Very man-centred and unscriptural. Error on Unbelief. The Bible doesn't explain these people as saved, but they are labeled so by this new theology (the theology of Keswick/higher life). If someone says that they love God and they know Him but dont actually obey Him, they are liars and the truth is not in them (1 Jn. Thats definitely not good. As noted with the example of Ravi Zacharias, a heretic and wolf in sheeps clothing, whom he refused to denounce in the video The Falling Away. Snce that time even more evifence has comdHe doesnt speak against the carnal circus he calls church that he preached in during deputation, where the house was overflowing with people and whoever brought the most visitors won an actual car (6 Great Lessons From The Welsh Revival, time 03:00). Interestingly, me and him share the same spiritual day of birth, only 4 years apart. It will just occur in your life if you are regenerated by the Spirit and then filled with the Spirit. Being a fundamentalist has to do with the fundamentals and it is a historical position. The will of God is commanded for EVERY child of God to be preaching (2 Cor. 23:59 December 07, 2019 He taught a false works gospel. Idea Lists. This sermon is the epitome of man-centredness and man-worship and ear-bleeding. He popularized and essentially canonized Keswick teachings in this Reference Bible, which is false sanctification (e.g. Is God helping us so we can have what we want or are we servants of Him? 5:18-20? . Its really ungodly thats what it is, and reveals the wolf character of Sexton. If he was saved, then the devil is saved. A serious lie. . (What Korah did was evil, but questioning a pastors teachings is NOT! Calum Hood. ".worse than an infidel." - 1 Timothy 5:8 Just thought I would let you know. It's even agreeable with sin. Where? Our sending church the Lighthouse Baptist Church of Shepherdsville, KY. If there are fundamentals, the Bible doesn't say what they are. (h) Rice embraced and taught blatant heresy on sanctification, which was Keswick/higher life/victorious life/revivalism (etc) heresy. In the video The Falling Away - Missionary Spencer Smith he uses unbelief to categorize the lost and ungodly modernists. 17:11; 1 Th. The word unbelief is applicable in scripture only to lost Jews, since it is only ever mentioned in the context of Jews, because of their privilege and opportunity, with their divine covenants and being Gods people (Rom. He has accumulated over 110k followers on Instagram. Hyles and Schaap); refuses to receive reproof, criticism is not welcome and refuses to give any warnings about other IBs, no matter how egregious their errors and ungodly their sins; false worshipper of CCM music; purveyor of a corrupted gospel (noted in the sermon "How to Lead Someone to Christ, about the 39 min mark he leads someone in a prayer for salvation, and that prayer is "to ask for forgiveness of sins, for Jesus to come into his life and be his Savior." Not only that, he was a positive preacher. 11:4). concerning salvation is so clear as the Laodicean church not having it. Its wishful thinking. Curtis Hutson. Hutson denied that repentance means to turn from sin (p. 4), rejected that it is sorrow for sin (p. 8), and denied that it means a change of mind that leads to a change of action (p. 16), so he concluded that repentance is merely to change ones mind. That is a perverted gospel (Gal 1:6-7) which means he was accursed (Gal 1:8-9). 1:1-4; Lk. (e.g. 30 Apr 2023 16:17:44 In one of his videos he claims Elvis Presley was a Christian. For do I now persuade men, or God? No pastor is ever to be reproved or rebuked regardless how wrong he is. This manipulative sentence is a good reflection of the horrible man-centredness of the fundamental IB churches and their gospel of self-fulfilment. Concerning the Welsh Revival video, he said a 16 yr old girl stood up in a prayer meeting and said I love Jesus with all of my heart; they said the outpouring of the Spirit of God was so strong when she did that, and basically that started it [the welch revival] (. This error is further seen in his mentions of backsliding and carnal Christian, all of which are Keswick currency. Thank you to all who gave! (https://www.missionaryspencersmith.com/2019-ibom-kenya-conference). You better watch what you say about Gods man!! 5:11; Ti. After the Welsh Revival (where he did various signs and wonders) in 1912, which was seven years after he vanished from the forefront of activities, from the spotlight which he so cherished, he co-authored (with Jessie Penn-Lewis) the book War on the Saints, where they confess they were both demon possessed and wrote the book out of their experiences with demons. Consider the following video: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCeEzY-PmjRBy2sdvaNHhdw/videos (scroll down to the bottom, the last 8 or so videos are all on Sexton). This is completely and entirely unscriptural and he should know that. 3:1-7 a man, husband, his, he) that is married (husband of one wife . All these things are heresy. He taught a universal church. He taught theistic evolution. He is referring to the unscriptural and heretical Keswick theology/revivalism, which actually gave birth to Pentecostalism. In this passage Pauls struggle is said to be the record of past conflicts and defeats experienced as a renewed man under law.) His teaching led to the idea that at the point of salvation someone received Jesus, and at some later point, Jesus became Lord (which happened when he was "dedicated or received the second blessing). We must call this heresy out. Tony Hutson. Spencer has sixteen full-blooded siblings and thirty-six . He would make statements that appeared Biblically right, but then contradict himself completely. Lukewarm Christianity; The Laodicean Church was Allegedly True Christians. The faith of Ryrie was faith in facts (i.e. I Th. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 10:15). He is a family man, preacher, missionary, and published author. Brown would not take a stand against Schaaps false doctrine and practice though he knew of it. His wife, Lilian De Fin is the great granddaughter of Smith Wigglesworth . I would venture to say that the vast majority of those thousands saved are actually not saved at all. That entire video promotes false revivalism and the false theology of Keswick/higher life. Spencer says, Ive seen five year olds get saved. I bet he has. He completely rejected Biblical repentance and Christs Lordship, which is a perverted gospel (Gal. These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates: (Ze. The ecumenicalism between modernists and evangelicals didnt start with music as he claims, it started actually with doctrine and friendships and repudiation of separation back in 1950s when neo-evangelicalism was started by heretics. Sexton continued to embrace and praise these ungodly heretics like Hyles after everything had come to light (calling him a man of God who fell) and then Schaap in 2011 after his blasphemous teaching on communion was brought to the public spotlight (see here Clarence Sexton Praises Jack Schaap and Clarence Sexton Lies Again For Jack Hyles and Clarence Sexton Continues Praising Jack Hyles, Schaap, and John Stancil) and up until Schaaps statutory rape of a child was made public there was much promotion of Schaap by Sexton in print and video on the websites used by the Baptist Friends group that was founded and led by Sexton; but then they all disappeared without a trace or explanation. Regardless how close it comes to the truth, if its not perfectly in line with scripture, it is still false. (see for example: 2 Cor. 24:44-48; Mk. He corrupts and distorts practically every single passage of Scripture he mentions (granted, its not many since guys like this do not expository preach out of the Bible but tell stories). He isn't reformed but I am curious to hear your various thoughts, if you have seen his videos or any of his documentaries (Third Adam) and your thoughts! He says the Bible promotes Westcott and Hort multiple times, which then confuses both Scofields and Spencers KJV/Textus Receptus position. Someone did touch Roberts, but not God. 3:1-3; 9:4-5). Here are the ones I know of. Spencer made a video that exalts this demon possessed wicked apostate that single handedly destroyed the real Welsh Revival of 1859 (https://youtu.be/r4ZNz18xwo8). 13:1-5; Jn. Born on 2 September 1987, Spencer Smith's age is 35 Years Old as of 2023. Jesus said we are to be witnesses of these things. (Lk. Our sending church the Lighthouse Baptist Church of Shepherdsville, KY. Roberts was a demon-possessed scoffer walking after his own lusts (2 Pet. Beats around the bush. As a result, so much of the Bible is not obeyed in fundamentalism. Don't join Spencer but follow after Christ of the Bible. He says if you do any of these things to the pastor, God will take care of you like He did Korah. The other men in the Spencer list included Bob Jones Sr., J Grechem Machen, Billy Sunday, Spurgeon, Lester Roloff and Ian Paisley.