Not at all. I don't trust government to execute people. Signup for our newsletter to get notified about our next ride. I was almost murdered in a housefireit was a firebomb. After the fire, police and fire investigators interrogated Kuykendall. The system is corrupt. There is no doubt this man was evil but as long as he was alive there was someone to blame for the pain and suffering of those left behind. Throughout the process, Stacy Kuykendall, Willingham's former wife and the mother of the three victims, has maintained that he was guilty of the murders. And do it again and again and again and keep your story straightall the while realizing that any father who doesn't give his life for the sake of his babies is worthless in the eyes of the rest of the human race, and is probably better off dead too.Yea, there is no reason for his inconsistent statements but that he set the fire, and those taken together with the rock artist posters in the laundry room are proof that he was a devil worshiper and deserved to die.I guess it's just that the whole world is against Texas because they are so independent minded after winning the war with Mexico andblah blah blah. Stacy Kuykendall. Another said he had been restrained from re-entering the building to go after his children. There is not one word about a supposed confession in the article from the Corsicana paper. 10/27/2009 04:57:00 PM: No, shame on her. It is highly doubtful there was a confession I have no doubt if there was it would have been released long ago and used to fight His final appeal it was not . None of this is new. Agreed, Chris. Susan (Stafford) Kuykendall, Age 77, of Coal City, Illinois (formerly of Minooka/Channahon, Illinois), died peacefully, surrounded by her family on January 11, 2023, after a valiant battle with ALS. If you consider that his confession and he didn't set the fire, he may have been a lousy human being for not attempting to save the children. Anon 2:27, that is the most cogent explanation of the death penalty farce in Texas I have ever heard. We just multiply. "One viewer of the Anderson video said that at first he thought that Mr. Martin was the prosecutor! Good for you! Disclosing a work-product was unethical, and this particular instance of it suggests that Mr. Martin is incapable of assimilating new information. Anon 1:10,I would agree with you completely and as far as I am concerned your argument makes perfect sense to me. Also, he could have gotten at least one of the children out of that house. He was born July 5, 1944, in Charleston, to the late Floyd Hardy and Clara Cleora (Wilson) Kuykendall. to the late Carmen and Ethel Cates Kuykendall. He saidshe saidyada yada yada! "Yes, there was a time in America where if you happened to be a stupid bitch who got knocked up by a stupid piece of crap the state would put you in jail and compel you to undergo sterilization.I'm also reminded of the retelling of the old parable in Oliver Stone's movie Natural Born Killers when Mickey was told "Look, you stupid bitch, you knew I was a snake when you picked me up. Stacy N. (Sevier) Kuykendall was born c. 1981. It is time to stop the persecution, convictions and even executions of those that are disliked. Why?I saw the mattress cover that my brother was bleeding to death on. Stacy could have a million motives for lying about the confession. Far from being an ambush, the Chicago Tribune reporter went out of his way to hand Mr. Martin an opportunity to explain himself, noting that the arson expert Mr. Martin had consulted had later changed his mind about what the evidence did or did not show. No lawyer with integrity would so slander a dead client to save face. The most obvious one being, it's easier to believe he did it, since she blamed him at the end. The stories go on and on and in the end, the only thing that matters is did he or did he not deliberately set that fire? Jan 13, 2023 Updated Jan 13, 2023. David Kuykendall, Sr., age 75, of Hueytown, Alabama, passed away March 23, 2022. So I ask, given everything Texas has riding on being right on this one, would it be so hard to believe there could be a conspiracy, worthy of a bad novel at work here? Pointless to discuss legal issues using "sources" like thefreedictionary.com. I guess you all still don't get it. I totally believe that Cameron Todd Willingham murdered his 3 kids in cold blood to get back at his wife; and/or to get rid of his unwanted kids because they were an impediment to his lifestyle.It wasn't just the arson evidence, but also eyewitness evidence as to his behavior and other things after the fire.The evidence clearly shows that Cameron Todd Willingham did murder his 3 daughters and even confessed to another inmate that he murdered his 3 kids and even confessed to his ex-wife that he murdered their 3 kids.Also his ex-wife supported him in the beginning and later became absolutely convinced of his guilt in the murders of her 3 kids.Also, the defense attorney who defended him at trial came to believe that he, in fact, did commit these murders.Also, his actions when the house first started burning, and later onwere not the actions of an innocent man. We can't know for sure if Willingham intentionally killed his children; but we do know that the forensic evidence in this case, properly interpreted, isn't strong enough to uphold a conviction.Alan Bean. So much for that.Everything I said is the absolute truth. All their covering up does is cause the media to dig deeper that they do not get it shows how arrogant and out of touch with reality they are . I might be more convinced of your sincerity had you also brought Mr. Willinghams stepmother Eugenia into your comments (http://www.star-telegram.com/242/story/1722713.html). He got mad and took the bait. Another cousin murdered in Californiathe murderer received a slap on the wristbecause he was wealthy and had connections, apparently.The coroner who did the autopsy on my murdered brother SAID it was murder, but the corrupt law enforcement and corrupt, so-called "judicial system" in Florida, deliberately and intentionally covered up his murder and others as well. That is really grasping for something to make him guilty .But back to the alleged confession. If you've seen photos of the Willingham house you know there were plenty of windows that could be broken in an emergency. She interpreted it as him confessing to the murder. He said he had been called "Hambone" for so long that he felt like it was his name and he felt strange when he was called by his name James.We all love him so much. By repeatedly citing his carpet pseudo-experiment, Mr. Martin showed that he still does not understand that floor patterns cannot be interpreted by eyeball. Could there be some pressure being used to make this woman change her story? I claimed only that Mr. Willinghams first appeal did not raise ineffective counsel, not that he never raised this issue; please stop uttering falsehoods.The more important issue is whether Mr. Martins present comments are within professional norms. Not for admiring Satanic art. I don't know if she had any other children than the three who died that day but it doesn't matter. She married that piece of garbage and had not one but three babies with him. Stacy was unharmed as she was out Christmas shopping at the time. That is not even remotely logical . That he was a dirty dog who saved his own skin instead of his children? The people who vote for Goodhair are held together by a simple social and political philosophy: If the local police want to kill Willingham, they have the right to do so, period. We know that man is certified in modern arson investigation and has disputed Beyler's claims. They want to believe this although there is zero evidence that Willingham was innocent. 5:16, that's a crock. That no one thought that it is possible that some one familiar with how TDCJ death row operates and what goes on when a person is on Deathwatch is Simply stupid, ignorant ,arrogant or all of the former Maybe they thought no one is ever released from Polunsky? Killing an innocent who the local authorities wanted dead could only be a feather in his cap. New Journey - Stacy Kuykendall Death - Dead, Obituary - Facebook Willingham's Ex-Wife: "He Watched While Their Tiny Bodies Burned" Obituary | Isaiah Marquise Kuykendall of Ruther Glen, Virginia | C.W Please find full obituary and celebration information at grandprairiefh.com, recent obituaries. The ONLY question should be is IF the killer did it or not.Then the next question should be, WHEN to execute the murdererand that's all.Anyone who opposes the death penalty, opposes justice for the victim, and is uncivilized, and extremely barbaric. at 6:38 AM,The NACDL said that the Supreme Court upheld the principle that the attorney-client privilege extends beyond the client's death (http://www.nacdl.org/MEDIA/pr000122.htm). Bullshit. Annonymous Cyber bully thinks that by insulting , name callng and making fun of typos he will be right . Mr. Martin went beyond trying to defend himself to attacking his client, and a reasonable person would question how effective his defense was.Attacking his client? He accepted Christ and baptized on December 31, 2014. But I thought you were one that refused to accept that it could have happened another way. I fact, I thought you were adamant that Willingham could have saved his older child.Willingham may have been guilty as sin but the source of the fire has proved questionable. Dr. Hurst's 2004 report was written pro bono, so the idea that he was paid to support a particular view is a non-starter. Why are you denying the scientific truth? They violated her confidence and made claims on her behalf that she herself contradicted consistently from the time of the fire at least through 1999, when she last gave a recorded interview. This case concerns investigative actions which have serious flaws and need desperately to be review for current best practices. The hurt and suffering did not end with this execution. Now she has to see her former daughter-in-law make statements that harm her stepsons memory at a critical juncture in the case, statements a reasonable person such as Scott would at least question. We don't know if Beyler's failure to interview this key witness was due to simple incompetence or if he was intentionally avoiding the truth in a perverted attempt to maintain plausible deniability. Now she wants to pretend she was just young, innocent and naive like her three daughters.GTFO! Why didn't he? The only question now is how long before they grow the balls to admit it? This must be the basis of KB's smear campaign against RP. Perhaps you have a reason to worry he might be innocent you sure act it . "There are fewer excuses for that sort of overstatement coming out of the mouth of a lawyer than a nonlawyer. Grits, Frist I can say that from my real life experince with being on Polunsky . They would never pursue her even tho they knew how to find her.You CAN get away scot-free in Florida with premeditated 1st-degree murder if you know the right people and have money and other connections. Not even for actually being Satanists if that's what floats their boat. (no offense, Scott), Anon. Tulsa Obituaries | Local Obits for Tulsa, OK - Legacy.com She says she "then left the room and returned to my oldest daughter." It probably does not exist because he never said it and it would have been used against him in his final appeal which would be public Just go to the Federal courts web site and sign up for PACER here is the URL http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/If a confession did exist it would have been released by now Seeing this blog is read nationally more than likely there are lot s of open records request for it . Dub was born July 24, 1945 in Hamilton Texas to O.W. (For example, she now claims the couple fought the night before the fire, but she clearly said the opposite in various official statements over the years.) As more people gathered and the police and FD arrived, then he was the grieving father. Ignore Dudley and the JFA Neo Nazis . He sounds not only like the village idiot, but to do a bit of paraphrasing, The man doth protest too much, methinks. in that he is incapable of accepting that over the years the science of arson investigations has changed and that he may have been wrong.No lawyer with both honor and dignity would ever present themselves in such a manner. "we do know that the forensic evidence in this case, properly interpreted, isn't strong enough to uphold a conviction.We don't know that because the evidence hasn't been properly re-interpreted. Does the science used at the time stand up to scrutiny? You really need your own blog. is not allowed the same thing. Some dat soon they wil have some expalianing to do . Either she is lying now or she lied in the past, including under oath at her ex-husband's trial. Human rights and justice isn't real high on the list of values! Myths and Facts about the Willingham Case - Innocence Project Don't project, SB. It doesn't matter that he beat his wife, it doesn't matter if he was a particularly repugnant human being, that he liked hard rock and Satanic themed posters, that his wife hated him because he lived and the children died, it doesn't matter if he didn't manage to get his children out of the house before it burned. Haven't we covered this subject already? So I'll say it again. It does not help your position.I am unaware of his attorney repeating any confidential communications of Willingham. Sept. 15, 1991 at 10:19 pm at Lee Memorial Hospital in Fort Myers, Lee County, Florida.We took the loss of Hambone real hard, and as I said, we have never gotten over it and we all still have problems dealing with it after all these years.What was the hardest, was KNOWING that he was murdered, but the law enforcement and judicial system deliberately and intentionally covered up his murder and others and called it an accidental death; although the coroner who did the autopsy said no way was it an accidental death, it was murder and nothing else but murder. No, I don't think Willingham was guilty and I hope the hell that his legacy is to bring change. If some else did something to make sure he was executed well that is another matter . They hung her out to dry, then she changes her story to support their statements when the Corsicana Sun and their city manager begin waving their hearsay claims around as proof of Willingham's guilt. Not a pleasnt thought either That is a whole new area . at 11:47 AM, and Anon at 12:39 PM,The attorney-client privilege belongs to the client and extends beyond his death (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Attorney+client+privilege); therefore, your assertion to the contrary is flat-out wrong. If one believes it was accidental, one might assume that Mr. Willingham overlooked Amber in the hallway as he theorized. Nor am I going to call a fellow inmate who testified that Willingham confessed to him a liar either. Facebook gives people the power to. He said that he yelled at her and then exited the house, leaving Amber and the twin infants inside to die. Equally possible are a hundred other scenarios. Mr. Willinghams first appeal did not even raise the question of ineffective counsel, so the fact that it was not found in this instance is strictly meaningless. And you tell me this monster and scumbag and murderer of 3 innocent little girls is innocent?If he were innocent, then those 3 adorable little girls would still be alive.He deserved execution for these cruel, vicious murders and he got a gentle death for the vicious, cruel, inhumane, and heinous murders of his 3 daughters.Goodbye, and good riddance, monster and scumbag!The report by Beyler is a pack of lies, gross errors and distortions of the truth, and extreme anti-death penalty propaganda by anti-death penalty fanatics who will stop at nothing to deprive the surviving relatives of murder victims of any justice and closure by doing any ridiculous stunt possible to stop the rightful carrying out of the death penalty to vicious, mad dog killers who deserve execution.All they talk about is the murderernot a word about the victim or what they suffered.The city of Corsicana had their Fire Department issue a 21-page rebuttal to the pack of lies by Beyler which is chock-full of death-penalty propaganda by anti-death penalty extremists. Didn't someone, somewhere point out that she could have set the fire before she left the house? Something they thought terribly funny. He has defended his work - which he has the right to do. Like Louisiana. Waurika. Goodhair and company sure are acting that way By defending this unethical attorney Willingham is guilty ? Tulsa. The bottom line for me is that his account of his actions does not make him look heroic, but it does not make him look guilty of arson either. I gave him the nickname "Hambone" when I was a kid in California and it stuck. Although that defense attorney has a right to defend himself against Anderson Cooper's pseudo-journalistic trolling, in hindsight he probably wishes that he had just walked away. And you could try reading your own authority and stop lying and misleading everyone first. Willingham's ex-wife, Stacy Kuykendall, has kept a low profile throughout the debate over his execution. But if she's going to put herself out there and espouse positions that contradict her previous claims, including ones made under oath, IMO it's impossible to consider her statements without openly discussing that "dissonance," as you put it. Real classy. Trust me, I know more about fires than you probably do.What convinces me, more than anything, is that he refused to go back in the house when it was first smoldering. The system is corrupt but nowhere is as bad as FL. We know that Stacy N. (Sevier) Kuykendall had been residing in Texas. Annon Cyber Bully What is your agenda ? Whether he set the fire or not doesn't matter to them one itoa. Please answer the following questions (one of which you have evaded): One, why do you disagree with the lawyers who have criticized Mr. Martins actions on ethical grounds? That is now followed by a statement from Stacy, contradicting every other statement or testimony she has ever made or given, now claiming that Willingham confessed. Why are the tapped conversations with Stacy being release? I claimed only that Mr. Willinghams first appeal did not raise ineffective counsel, not that he never raised this issue; please stop uttering falsehoods.Because it is not raised in an appeal, therefore, your statement was irrelevant, ignorant, and deliberately misleading. They simply believe local law enforcement and prosecutors should be the sole arbiters of life and death for people of Willingham's socio-economic status and character, and they think it is perfectly good justice to hang Willingham for who he was -- regardless of what he allegedly did. Co opting and the very real grief of a victm to silence other voices and political gain is rephensible and as immoral as those thease "Tough on Crime " ilk condemn so loudly . We're not supposed to execute people for being what we don't want them to be.We do charge, convict and execute people who deliberately and willfully murder others. This looks like more than one person got cuaght in a huge lie and now is very desperate to get out of it . Tx has made many mistakes on death row inmates and sentencing was done in the usual way. Neighbors said Todd didn't try. Yeah, I get it so cut the crap long enough to see who agrees with you and who doesn't. Just because you claim to not know how you would act (and for the record I don't believe you), doesn't mean that others of us don't. "My ex-husband murdered my daughters,". Stacy Kuykendall read a prepared statement to reporters outside the Travis County courthouse. Stop lying and misleading people. Execution is a one-time shot unless someone messes up. He was born on April 13, 1934 to William and Vealie Kuykendall in Gumwood Township. If you have been trapped in a burning building, and you behaved calmly and courageously, then I salute you. Apparently those who think he is doing so don't understand the Texas conservative political ideology which drives his constituency. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Cicero Rhetorical Techniques; Richland County Land Development Manual; Bernard Flament Biographie; The Second And Third Crusades Were Announced At; Bellinger V Bellinger Declaration Of Incompatibility; Xerox Financial Services Life Insurance Company; Shame on you! Facebook gives people the. That was just one of a number of interviews involving Texas and this case that can only be described as physically painful. He was born on May 30, 1964, in Sikeston, Missouri, to the late Carmen and Ethel Cates Kuykendall. KUYKENDALL Peggy Stacey Kuykendall - A lifelong resident of Mobile, passed away Tuesday, August 7, 2007 at a local hospital. That's her right.I think it would be best to concentrate on the fact that flawed science and poor defense led to an execution where reasonable doubt was not proved. We covered that, too. I am a housefire survivor myself. Dr. Beyler concluded that a finding of arson cannot be sustained. Only an ignorant person would believe that his recent statements bear any reflection to the work he did defending Willingham. No one can say exactly how they will or will not act in a traumatic event or events . Remember the last president? Willingham's own version of events was essentially a confession. In her statement to the Star-Telegram Stacy says when she got to the hospital she asked Todd why her children were dead and he was still alive and Todd had nothing to say. Death Notice. Your defense of Martin and his actions is no more than a feeble grasping at straws to defend a fast sinking ship. On December 23, 1991, fire gutted the home where Cameron Todd Willingham, then 23, lived with his wife, Stacy Kuykendall, and the couple's three daughters: two-year-old Amber Kuykendall and one-year-old twins Karmon Willingham and Kameron Willingham. I don't care. I expect that we have executed more than one innocent man just as we have convicted many innocent men. "That seems quite a leap to deem that negligence amounting to depraved indifference, at least as I understand the term. Just for the record, for all of you who think this guy got a fair trial to begin with, how many of you would feel comfortable having Willingham's attorney represent you in a murder trial and have complete confidence that he would do his best for you and present an aggressive and competent defense? There may well be a case somewhere in this country where an innocent was executed. Oh well. Here are the links so readers don't have to go on the spin by the New Yorker or Chicago Tribune.http://www.corsicanadailysun.com/archivesearch/local_story_246091758.htmlhttp://www.star-telegram.com/texas/story/1709042.htmlKeep in mind that in a newspaper story, you never know what the questions were or what the reporter left out of the response. If you wish to have a legal system that works with the presumption of innocent until proven guilty, works in a fair and just manner and is concerned with justice and truth over numbers and dollars, there's a very long way to go. It's obvious that what Ms. Kuykendall means is that she left Todd and went down the hall (or to the room next door, or whatever) to be with her oldest daughter's body. Anderson Cooper never once used the word innocent. Mr. Martin said, there was no question whatsoever he was guilty. Among the evidence he cited for this claim was a refrigerator that even the arson investigators was not part of the alleged crime. He said that his two year old daughter Amber woke him up from a nap and alerted him to the fire. Nor can we convict a man on the basis of the words of a wife whom he beat and who lives with the grief of the loss of her children and a hatred for a man who she feels should have either saved them or died in the attempt. Stacy Kuykendall is telling her story in her own words on the Sunday, Feb. 14 season premier of the series Evil Lives Here on the Investigation Discovery channel. But the reality in today's social climate is, that if a DA thinks he can use it to file charges against a parent in what may be no more than an accidental death because of public outrage, that DA is going to file depraved indifference and use the same arguments we've been hearing the revolting peasants with their torches using here.